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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox character&lt;br /&gt;
| name = Jabali&lt;br /&gt;
| series = [[Ramayana]]&lt;br /&gt;
| creator = [[Valmiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
| alias = Javali&lt;br /&gt;
| noinfo = yes&lt;br /&gt;
| gender = Male&lt;br /&gt;
| occupation = Priest, Dasharatha&amp;#039;s advisor&lt;br /&gt;
}}{{Short description|Character in the Hindu epic Ramayana}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{other uses|Jaabaali}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Jabali&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; ({{Langx|sa|जाबालि|translit=Jābāli}}) is a character in the ancient Indian epic [[Ramayana]]. A learned [[Brahmin]] priest and an advisor of King [[Dasharatha]], he unsuccessfully tries to persuade [[Rama]] to give up his exile, using rational arguments.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Attempt to persuade Rama ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In Ramayana, Rama abandons his claim to the royal throne and goes on a 14-year [[exile]], in order to fulfill his father&amp;#039;s promise. Rama considers his decision as his &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[dharma]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (righteous duty), necessary for his father&amp;#039;s honour. In &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Ayodhya Khanda&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, Jabali accompanies [[Bharata (Ramayana)|Bharata]] to the forest, as part of a group that tries to convince Rama to give up his exile and return.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Jayanta2007&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Jabali uses [[nihilism|nihilistic]] and [[atheism|atheistic]] reasoning to dissuade Rama from continuing the exile. He states that those give up &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[artha]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (material pleasures) for the sake of &amp;#039;&amp;#039;dharma&amp;#039;&amp;#039; suffer in this life and meet [[Eternal oblivion|extinction]] after their death. Showing further disbelief in the concept of [[afterlife]], he criticizes the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[Śrāddha|shraddha]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039; ritual, in which people offer food to their dead ancestors. He calls it a wastage of food, and sarcastically suggests that if food eaten by one person at a given place could nourish another person at another place, &amp;#039;&amp;#039;shraddha&amp;#039;&amp;#039; should be conducted for those going on long journeys, so they would not need to eat anything.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Jayanta2007&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite book |author=Jayantanuja Bandyopadhyaya |title=Class and Religion in Ancient India |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=UDEaE4Jf78sC&amp;amp;pg=PA211 |year=2007 |publisher=Anthem Press |isbn=978-1-84331-727-2 |pages=210–211 }}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, even after listening to the arguments of Jabali and others, Rama refuses to give up his exile. He instead extols the virtues of following the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;dharma&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rama&amp;#039;s response ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Valmiki]]&amp;#039;s Ramayana contains a section that describes Rama angrily denouncing Jabali, which includes the following verses:&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;width: 25%&amp;quot; | [[Ramayana]] (2:109:34)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Valmiki_2_109&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web |url=http://www.valmikiramayan.net/utf8/ayodhya/sarga109/ayodhya_109_frame.htm |title=Book II: Ayodhya Kanda - Book Of Ayodhya, Chapter [Sarga] 109 |work=Valmiki&amp;#039;s Ramayana |author=Valmiki |others=Translated by Desiraju Hanumanta Rao &amp;amp; K. M. K. Murthy }}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;width: 25%&amp;quot; | Translation by [[Ralph T. H. Griffith]]&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Ralph_CIX&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;width: 25%&amp;quot; | Translation by [[Shyam Ranganathan]]&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Shyam2007&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;width: 25%&amp;quot; | Translation by D. H. Rao &amp;amp; K. M. K. Murthy&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Valmiki_2_109&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;निन्दाम्यहं कर्म पितुः कृतं त ।&lt;br /&gt;
द्यस्त्वामगृह्णाद्विषमस्थबुद्धिम् ।&lt;br /&gt;
बुद्ध्यानयैवंविधया चरन्तं ।&lt;br /&gt;
सुनास्तिकं धर्मपथादपेतम् ।। (2-109-33)&lt;br /&gt;
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यथा हि चोरः स तथा हि बुद्ध |&lt;br /&gt;
स्तथागतं नास्तिकमत्र विध्हि |&lt;br /&gt;
तस्माद्धि यः शङ्क्यतमः प्रजानाम् |&lt;br /&gt;
न नास्ति केनाभिमुखो बुधः स्यात् (2-109-34)&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;My father&amp;#039;s thoughtless act I chide&lt;br /&gt;
That gave thee honoured place,&lt;br /&gt;
Whose soul, from virtue turned aside,&lt;br /&gt;
Is faithless, dark, and base.&lt;br /&gt;
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We rank the Buddhist with the thief,&lt;br /&gt;
And all the impious crew&lt;br /&gt;
Who share his sinful disbelief,&lt;br /&gt;
And hate the right and true.&lt;br /&gt;
Hence never should wise kings who seek&lt;br /&gt;
To rule their people well,&lt;br /&gt;
Admit, before their face to speak,&lt;br /&gt;
The cursed infidel. (2-109-34)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;lt;poem&amp;gt;I denounce the action mentioned below, of my father, who picked up you as his councilor-priest, a staunch unbeliever, who has not only stayed away from the path of dharma but whose mind is set on a wrong path opposed to the Vedic path, nay who is moving about in this world with such an ideology conforming to the doctrine of [[Charvaka|Chaarvaaka]], who believes only in the world of senses as has been set forth in your foregoing speech.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is a well-known fact that a follower of Buddha deserves to be punished precisely as a thief [because such a heretic robs people of their faith in a Vedically moral universe]; and know a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;nastika&amp;#039;&amp;#039; to be on a par with a Buddhist.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/poem&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|I accuse the act done by my father in taking you into his service, you with your misleading intelligence, a firm atheist fallen from the true path. (2-109-33)&lt;br /&gt;
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It is an exact state of the case that a mere thought deserves to be punished as it were a thief and know an atheist to be on par with a mere intellectual. Therefore, he is the most suspect, and should be punished in the interest of the people. In no case should a wise man consort with an atheist. (2-109-34)&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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In these and subsequent verses, Rama becomes so angry that he denounces his own father for keeping Jabali as an adviser.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Shyam2007&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite book |author=Shyam Ranganathan |title=Ethics and the History of Indian Philosophy |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=x89I_zEGPhkC&amp;amp;pg=PA97 |date=1 January 2007 |publisher=Motilal Banarsidass |isbn=978-81-208-3193-3 |pages=97}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He accuses Jabali of being an [[atheist]], and states that those following the [[nastika]] path deserve to be punished. In the subsequent verses, he emphasizes the importance of following the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;dharma&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Jabali then retracts his statements, saying that he was merely arguing like a nihilist to convince Rama to come back, but he is not actually a nihilist.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;John1862&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; [[Vashistha]] supports Jabali, stating that he was speaking in the interest of Rama.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Rajendra2009&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite book |author=Rajendra Prasad |title=A Historical-developmental Study of Classical Indian Philosophy of Morals |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=1gtxVmUr1ygC&amp;amp;pg=PA74 |year=2009 |publisher=Concept Publishing Company |isbn=978-81-8069-595-7 |page=74 }}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Where as some other versions of ramayana suggest that he was a supporter of maharishi jabali. and was always trying to gain the knowledge of renouncing worldly pleasures by just leaving them&lt;br /&gt;
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== Interpolation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The verses depicting Rama&amp;#039;s anger are considered a [[interpolation (manuscripts)|later insertion]] in Valimiki&amp;#039;s original text. Every [[canto]] of Ramayana ends with one long [[shloka]] written in a different [[metre (poetry)|metre]], compared to the other verses. However, the version of the canto containing these verses contains six long shlokas in a different metre. The dialogue between Rama and Jabali is finished in the first shloka, in which Rama is not depicted as annoyed. However, the next few shlokas re-open the dialogue abruptly, and the tone of the conversation contradicts the tone of the earlier dialogue.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;MMKunte1880&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite book |author=Mahadev Moreshwar Kunte |title=The Vicissitudes of Âryan Civilization in India: An Essay, which Treats of the History of the Vedic and Buddhistic Polities, Explaining Their Origin, Prosperity, and Decline |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=YzIQAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA449 |year=1880 |publisher=printed at the Oriental Printing Press by N. W. Ghumre |pages=449 }}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In his translation, Griffith calls these lines &amp;quot;manifestly spurious&amp;quot; and cautions that these need to be &amp;quot;regarded with suspicion&amp;quot;. [[August Wilhelm Schlegel]], who translated Ramayana to German (1829), also called these lines fake, and later regretted having included them in his translation.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Ralph_CIX&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite book |url=http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rama/ry187.htm#fr_388 |title=The Rámáyan of Válmíki |chapter=Book II: Canto CIX.: The Praises of Truth |author=Valmiki |author-link=Valmiki |others=Translated by [[Ralph T. H. Griffith]] }}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;John1862&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite journal |title=Verses from the Sarva-Darśana-Sangraha, the Vishnu Purāna, and the Rāmāyana, Illustrating the Tenets of the Chārvākas, or Indian Materialists, with Some Remarks on Freedom of Speculation in Ancient India |author=John Muir |author-link=John Muir (indologist) |journal=Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain &amp;amp; Ireland |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=2d4sAAAAIAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA307 |year=1862 |volume=19 |publisher=Cambridge University Press for the Royal Asiatic Society |pages=299–314}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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According to [[Jayantanuja Bandyopadhyaya]], Rama&amp;#039;s outburst against Jabali in these verses is an example of &amp;quot;[[Brahmanical Hinduism|Brahmanical]] counteroffensive against all anti-[[Vedas|Vedic]] ideals and movements&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Jayanta2007&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;{{rp|173}} Although Rama appears to identify Jabali&amp;#039;s views as [[Buddhism|Buddhist]], Jabali&amp;#039;s arguments reflect the [[Lokayata|Charvaka]]  school of thought.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Jayanta2007&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;{{rp|116}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book |title=The Indian Year Book of International Affairs |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=asweAAAAMAAJ |year=1963 |publisher= Indian Study Group of International Affairs, University of Madras |page=458 }}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[William Theodore de Bary]] calls Jabali&amp;#039;s speech a parody of Buddhist [[scepticism]] and [[antinomianism]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Bary2009&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite book |author=William Theodore De Bary |title=Nobility and Civility: Asian Ideals of Leadership and the Common Good |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=OTDjQtM5IcIC&amp;amp;pg=PA27 |date=30 June 2009 |publisher=Harvard University Press |isbn=978-0-674-03067-1 |pages=27}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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